did you get started? - "I was a skinny little kid just trying to
look for an outlet. I remember my dad had a 110-lb Sears weight set
and a DP bench so I started lifting there so I thought if I could
build my body I could protect myself.
Cool. Ok, 83 was your first record. Age 15.
How much was it? - 370. At 16, I did 440. At 17, I set a
high school record at 520. At 18 I did 600, at 19 I did 612, at 22 I
did 650, 23 I did 675, did 700 at 24, 720 at 25, and at 26, I did
735 and then I went on to do 748, 750 at Texas, the Great Bench
Press of America Meet. I attempted 800; I had 14 attempts at 800 and
then in 96 you know we did 770, 780 at the Olympia and then 785 and
at the Arnold Classics we hit 800 in 97.
So. Here we are today and what's going on
with Anthony Clark? - Well, we're doing a lot of things,
Tim. You know, as you can see, I'm doing a lot more ministry working
with a lot of kids, speaking to a lot of schools all over the country
and doing that. But also too, I have my own line of supplement,
trying to promote that all over the country called Terra Forma. So
I'm working with a company called Terra Forma and it's really been
pretty good. We haven't done a lot of marketing but we've been doing
that, I've been on the phones. So not only that, I have my own gym
you know, the PowerHouse. Me and my partner, Steve Wickersham, we're
building another gym out in Caty so that's approximately out about
60-90 days and it'll be finished. So I'm doing a lot. Then got a
video coming out pretty soon.
So that gets us to today. So in '93-98, you've been setting records
in the bench, the total and the squat but mainly in the bench you've
been setting records 700+ for the last say, 5-6 years. - Right.
So how does it feel when today people hear about you going to lift
again, the first thing out of their mouths is "Oh, he's making a
comeback" - Well, I think because they're saying I'm making a
comeback; I've been on a hiatus. I've been just, you know, doing a
lot of speaking engagements and not competing like I used to full
boar. Hitting 2 or 3, I mean, 3 or 4 meets a year. They've been like
1 or 2 meets a year now. So.
Now I know, another thing about the 1 or 2 meets a year.
crap about bomb outs? - Ok. I think the bomb outs. Let me just say
one thing. Not making excuses because I'm not a man of excuses
bombing out, the bomb outs have been pretty much, you know, I still
have a lot on my plate, you know, training's been adequate, not like
it used to be, like, since now I'm like a business person too I also
have to pay attention to my business. I have to put food on the
table and clothes on my back. But let me just say this. The bomb
outs. They've been not because I couldn't do the weight , its
because I guess you know really training you have to be precise in
training and I haven't been paying attention to details and so, but
then like I said, there's no excuses and, uh, you know, I still am
alive and I will compete again to make a successful lift.
Speaking of being alive, how do you feel every
year you hear that you died? - I die laughing. Matter of fact, tell you the truth, Peter Thorn just
told me, you know, I was speaking to Peter, he say's I just talked
to someone and you just died. I say's, no he can't be dead because I
just talked to him. I said, it kind of humors me. But I guess if
people want me dead, that's just the way it is, you know? But I am
alive and still lifting.
As far as your health, it is true that 6
months ago you were in the hospital? -
No it's about a year ago now. About a year ago yeah I did go in the
hospital and yes it was like a for a, lets see, something about my
heart but it was really because of stress and I'd been working
really hard and my immune system was really down and I did go in the
hospital for like 12 days.
Well, physically what happened?
Physically I lost a lot of weight and I was just, uh, you know and ,
mental distraught because I just working real hard , had some
problems, you know, I had some issues I had to deal with.
Being a guy also, what's really important to a top level lifter like
you is the better you'll do, how you're lifting with less stress.
As we probably both know, the two main factors that will bring on
this stress are females and money. -
So, are you married today? -
No, I'm not married today. Thank god I'm not. But you know not for
the choices that I have made but, uh, you know hopefully one day
I'll be married.
Money? People see your name or see your pictures in a magazine or on
TV or talk shows and they assume you're a millionaire.
Exactly. I laugh at that, but you know what? I guess it's been an
image then that's been portrayed, but from the sport, do not make
any money, I do not make any money. It's been pretty awesome that
now you have the WPO trying to provide you with some money and some
winnings when you do participate, but you can not earn a living out
So how do you make money being a powerlifter?
Well, I make my money by sponsorships. Sponsorships and guest
appearances, that's how I make my money.
So you got to
sell yourself? - So I got to sell myself but if I don't
sell myself I don't eat. It's either feast or famine.
feeding, I'm hungry now, but anyway, what does it cost Anthony Clark
a day to live? - Well, I think, you know, let's put it
down in weeks. I think it costs me since ...
been in a restaurant with you before and it's been a hundred dollar
bill just for you! I know it costs something to eat. -
I'm not very dead, I'm hoping to get married so, you know, since I
don't have that home type cooking at home it cost me between about
400-450 a week just to eat.
your food bill? - That's my food bill. That's a lot,
that's 1200-1300 a month on food so thank god I got sponsorships to
You know, I got Terra Forma. Terra Forma's one of my sponsors. I've
got Octubeck that works in truck (?) accessories, I have Superfeet
and Powerhouse Gym. And, oh yeah, I do have a restaurant called La
They feed you
free? - They feed me free.
Cool, we got to
go there. Speaking of Powerhouse, alright, they've been with you a
long time. - Yeah, Powerhouse has been really great,
they've been one of my major sponsors. At first they provided me
with a truck, they bought me a Dodge truck, remember that one? So it
was pretty nice, and, uh, they've hooked me up with franchises and,
uh, been really great. Great people and good to work with.
So is it fair
to say that without those sponsors, you probably would not have been
able to live like you are? Not if you, for a couple years and then
you would have to kick back into the public and go make a living and
not lift. - Well I think so. Well I think that without
the sponsors I probably couldn't have the kind of image that I do
have as far as getting out there and doing a lot of speaking and
just doing, promoting powerlifting as a whole. So you're right, I'd
probably had to work a 9-5 job and probably cut down my own lifting,
too, a lot.
Ok, well, what
do you weigh right now? - I approximately weigh about 335
lbs. right now.
And how tall
are you? - About 5' 8".
Is that a real
5'8"? - Well, maybe. Maybe contemplating 5'8".
So how much
would Anthony Clark ideally like to weigh? - Ideally, I'd
like to weigh about, I think my best weight is between 335 and 340
as far as overall lifting.
Where is Anthony going?
- Well, my eyes are on the prize now. You know, I believe that Gary
said to Mark now, Gary Frank's, which is an awesome guy, believe me,
I think he's a great guy and he's good for the sport. I think he's
good to look up to. You know, he's setting the pace right now and I
think that's what I need, someone to set the pace because for so
long there was no one out there. You know, you had Ed Cohen but I
believe, Ed Cohen's a good lifter, but I believe that this Gary
Franks just really puts me in a mode where, hey, you got to get
Now that we got through a bunch of the
typical crap that we got to interview about, let's get down to some
serious shit. How do feel about getting snubbed at the Arnold
Classic, you and Jamie Harris? -
Ok, I figure, you know, snubbed is pretty kind of a harsh word but I
believe, yeah, I think we did get kind of ax out there.
Ok, my point is, you and Jamie Harris, the only people who ever
benched over 750, and yet neither one of you got invited. That's
kind of fucked up. -
Well, I think it's kind of messed up too. But you know what? I
believe its that , you know, they were looking and you know, I asked
them about that, and they were looking on actions, you know,
precedents, didn't do good at past performances and so I kind of
understood there but I didn't understand where we couldn't have been
invited there to be even to maybe even celebrities out there, or
even to, like hey listen, we're out there, we've been the best
before and we're going to be the best. Well, I still am the best. The
bench press record hasn't been broken.
There you go.
Ok, I consider you a legend as I do with several other of the
lifters of the day, with myself included. -
Mm hmm, I gotcha.
What do you consider yourself?
Ok, I consider me a, like you know, I consider me blessed to be in
this sport. I think there's a lot of other legends, I think me as a
legend as a whole? I think I'm a good lifter and, uh, but I don't
know, wait till we're finished. But I believe that, you know, you
have Bill Kazmaier...
Time will tell.
Yeah, time will tell, Bill Kazmaier was a legend, I believe that he
was a role model that I looked up to and I think he's a, you know,
still a role model of mine and, uh, and you know, there's some other
people coming up and uh there's going to be some really awesome, like I
said, the best is yet to come, we'll see.
So, has Anthony Clark ever considered the Worlds Strongest Man
Contest? Or is your cardio lacking? -
Ok. laugh. Cardio, you need a lot of cardio to do the World's
Strongest Man Contest. Well I had done the World's Strongest Man
Contest in 1992, I was in Japan and that's when we did the elephant
lift and all kinds of stuff like that so uh, It was pretty cool. We
threw gold bricks around and, uh, you know, Japanese are really
extravagant people so I got to go be apart of that so that was
Um, this is
kind of an off-the-wall question but, do you feel like you get your
share of publicity in Powerlifting USA? - Ok, do I get me
share of publicity? I think I do. I think whether it's right, wrong
or different, I still get my share. I think it's you know a lot of
people throw a lot of smack but that's cool, you know, least I'm
still recognized in the game. I believe all publicity is good
publicity and that's like uh, one marketer says, you know, someone's
talking about you, you're still in the game.
going to be your next meet? - Next meet, I'm looking for
July 21st the WPO. You know, uh, everyone's going to be there, it's
going to be a full meet and that's what I'm looking for.
Successfully, you know, successfully compete.
So you're going
to do all three lifts? - All three lifts.
going to be, in Daytona again? - It should be, they said
in Orlando but I don't know for sure.
your lifts, how do you feel when most of your lift records for the
last 10, 15 years have been controversial? - Well, I
believe that's just, you know, I mean, for me, the way I feel about
them, I think, you know, I went there to the contest, I legitimately
done them right under the rules, I believe they were legitimate. But
after the overall effect, you know, I guess they're going
retroactive, you know, to each his own. They're going to say what
they're going to say but they were done and they were white-lighted
so I mean there's, think about this, Tim... I mean, I've turned down
1100 down squat you know publicly how many people you know do that?
- Ok, 'cause I mean, I got white lights! It was good, it
wasn't my fault that they said white.
So do you kind
of feel like your lifts are before your time? - I think
Because your numbers are so big, I mean,
like the 800 bench was three years ago. People are going, like, "ah,
that's so far out of here it can't be legit". - Right.
You ever get that feeling? - Um, I don't
know if they were so far out as my time, I think it was because, you
know, I was so passionately hungry for that, because, you remember
when the bench press wars come out? I had Jamie Harris, you had all
these guys coming out, bam, bam, bam, so I had to get after it, you
You didn't have a choice.
Exactly, I didn't have a choice but get after it. And then, I had a
good support group, you know, I got a good lifting crew, you know,
you were part there, you were there each time I broke a world
As far as your, you mentioned your going to be at WPO next meet.
So, can I get a
commitment from you on this interview for the
The Mountaineer? You mentioned that to me I think, uh, if I get my
plane fares taken care of, I'll probably, you got a commitment.
Nick tonight. Ok. I'm going to throw out some names and I just want
your knee-jerk reactions; Ed Coan. - Ed Coan. Great
lifter. Fantastic lifter just to say the truth.
- Jamie Harris. Good lifter, surprise friend. Uh, got a, how can I
say it?. Just a good guy but has a lot of anger.
- Garry Frank, Great guy. I think he's awesome, I think he's good
for the sport. I think he's the man, I think he's good, I think he's
just awesome right now. I think he's on fire and what better person
can be the front runner right now.
- Never knew him personally but powerful, strong, big.
- Kazmaier. laughs. What can you say about Bill? I mean, Bill, all
the way around he still looks great, he's awesome, I'm glad he gave
his life to the Lord. I think he's changed but as far as all around,
Ok. How about
Brad Gillingham, the current IPF World Champion. That's pretty good.
- Brad Gillingham. Young kid, awesome, lot of potential and I wish
him luck. He's doing great, you know, I think, from what I hear,
he's a good kid, he's a good role model.
- Mark Henry. Never knew Mark personally but I'm sad to see he's
gone. And I wish him luck in wrestling or whatever endeavor he's
going to participates in.
Can you say
he's one of the few in the sport that makes money off of it?
- I think so. As far as the sports concerned, I think he had, uh,
powerlifting was a springboard. So I think he did do it right. He
had the opportunity, he took the opportunity, you know.
- Jessie Kellum. Aggressive. Uh, fireplug lifter, he's just a good
all-around good lifter. That's all I can say about him. Jesse, he's
- David Waterman. Looks good. Awesome, powerful looking and amazing.
This is about a
week after the Arnold Classic and I was up there, and of course I
didn't see you, but this guy weighing 195 lbs, George Halbert,
benches 683. What the hell's up with that? - That's
So a little
guy, he's benching these big numbers. - It's motivating.
It's motivating to see, especially George. I mean George is a, how
can I say it, he's reserved but he's a good guy, all the way around,
he's just nice. I mean, you know you can't say anything negative,
he's just great.
- Kenny Patterson. Another good guy, looks good, versatile, you
know, he's done multiple lifts, multiple records in multiple
Ok. This one
guy I want to ask you about, we seen his ads as of late in the
magazines doing some smack talking. - Exactly.
And I'm not
sure how to pronounce his last name, but I think it's Glen.
Chabot. What do
you think of that? - You know, you know me, I'm always a
humble person. Chabot shot himself. I think he shot himself in the
foot by putting those ads out. Matter of fact, he didn't even
mention so many of the great people who done great lifts like that
so, uh, I think maybe he's a one-time wonder. So there's a challenge
out to you, Chabot, prove me different.
Yep, you got
it...Alright, what about this guy, Jason "Deep Squatter" Burnell?
- Who? Who's Jason? Deep Squatter...laughs
enough. Ok, and this last guy I wanted to ask you about of course is
Tim "The People's Champion" Brunner. - Tim.
What can I say about Tim.
Now, I'm going
to throw these names, these organizations out there at you. I want
you to just tell me what you think off the top of your head.
- Is that a counter deal also?
That's an IPF
affiliate. - USAPL Don't know enough about them. Really
haven't kept up.
to keep the drug-free movement around. USPF - USPF I've
participated in them, a lot of problems there. I think, you know,
they took the best people out.
- APF Arnie Frantz. A good guy. Think he, he loves powerlifting.
- IPF Um, had a chance to participate but didn't.
That was in
'94. - Yeah, '94, because of , you know, I believe if you
want a world team you got to dish out the money, so.
- You know, it's like, hey listen, support us.
Take care of
us. WPO - WPO I thinks it's, uh, it's going to be a great
organization. You got a good, you got someone that has a passion for
powerlifting and one who wants to make it popular and a household
Um. What's your
views on this division we have between drug-free and drug lifters?
- Well, I think you know, my position is that to each his own. You
know, uh, whether you're going to do it or not going to do it,
that's your deal. You know, and if I , I believe that's it's good to
have categories like that because you know your going to have
decisionship; it's either your going to do or you don't. And that's
what my position is. I'm not condoning anything because, guess what,
why should I? You know, I participate in everything. So, either way,
I'm going to go and have fun. That's what it's all about.
Ok. There's a couple names we didn't get
to. What do you think of Rob Fusener? - Rob Fusener? I
saw him lift. I think he's got great potential, I think he's going
to be a force out there one day.
How about Louie
Simmons? - Louie Simmons. Great coach, I think he's a
good, good for the sport. Um, you know, he's helped me, he's help
spot me sometimes and I think he's got a good eye for technique.
Now, for the
last 10 years, you're strong points in your lifting have been your
persistence and your consistency. - Right.
What do you
think of that? - Well, I think you're right, but the last
couple years that I've been back I've been sick, I haven't been
persistent or consistent. Uh, due because of stress related and
business related ventures.
Lack of focus.
- Exactly, lack of focus, so, it gets kind of cloudy up there.
That should try
to change. - It's changing, it's changing, Ok.
Lets talk about
gear. - Ok
What do you
wear? - Injury (?) vest is on, it's the best gear known
What do you
think about the two-ply? - Well I think the two-ply is
awesome. Two-ply what? Two-ply shirt, two-ply polyester, that's the
shirt I wear.
Have you tried
denim? - No I haven't tried denim?
- Why? Because I'm sticking to what works with me. I mean, I believe
the two-ply denim has been great, uh, I haven't fell with it. Matter
of fact, you know, once I've gotten my lift, I'm good to go.
Your good to
go, ok. How much does the shirt add for you? No bullshit.
- 75-maybe 100 lbs, maybe. I don't know, I'm thinking, maybe not
even that much, maybe.
Ok so lets say
you're doing 800 and it gives you a 100 lbs, so that's about what,
12-13%. - Ok, well, ok not that much. I say 50-60 lbs.
What's the most
you ever done without a shirt? - Uh, 710.
Ok. Well have
you tried the hardcore? - Oh yeah, the hardcore, awesome
suit, awesome. It feels like it's loose but it's really tight.
It's nice, yes.
I get asked this stupid question a thousand hundred million times
and I know you get probably get asked this more....why are you doing
the reverse? - Well, the reverse grip. Let me just show
Isn't it true
that the barbarians, that's how it all started? - Yep, it
started out with the barbarians. But I put it up on the back shelf,
you remember when 1991 at the state meet when I fell with 996 lbs?
That's in, uh.
Texas. - Right. So I was out of the sport for about a
half, well about a year.
So I thought what could I get my name back in the sport?
Ah, a tool to
get people to look at you. - Exactly. Look at me again.
And God just spoke to me, he said "Andy, guess what? If you glorify
me, I'll make you number one" And I was number one ever since then;
since I went to the reverse grip.
Can you do as
much reverse as regular? - I don't know, I haven't maxed
You don't train
regular? - No, don't train regular.
What's the most
you've done regular? - Uh, 707.
Um, here it is,
we're in 2000 now, the year 2001, where do you think powerlifting is
heading? - I think powerlifting as a whole, if we keep
the momentum going straight and forward, and not bicker so much, and
hopefully we'll get an organization that will be lean and mean and
structured where they are not featuring the federation as they
feature their athletes. Just like in the NBA, they feature athlete;
NFL feature athlete; they don't feature the federation.
So what, then
Nick Busick with the Mountaineer and the kid they're doing with the
WPO, shit, stuff like they're doing? - Yeah, stuff like
they're doing I think is going to make a difference. We're going to
be recognized one of these days.
Ok, you want to
squash any rumors right now? - Yeah, I'd like to squash
the rumors of the bomb outs. The bomb outs are just like I said,
they aren't because I couldn't do the weight, it's just because of
lack of detail. And I, uh, that's soon to change.
In your life?
- In my life.
Next year, the
beginning of March, where you plan on being? - Arnold
Classic, I'll be there. I'll be there with everyone else and that
won't be just to play.
Now I want to
ask you some of my question, that I want to know at least. I'm
assuming other people wondered the same shit but never asked. Do you
ever want to have kids? - oh yeah, definitely man.
How many? - Whatever God will bless me
Cool. I want to know, when you go buy an
airline ticket, do they charge you by the pound or do they make you
buy two seats? - Laughs.
Ok, now be honest, when you walk on the
plane, when your loading and it's packed, do people like, look at
you, and you think they are saying "Shit, I hope he don't sit next
to me"? - Yeah (laughing)
You ever feel that? - (Still laughing)
Oh yeah. I got the vibes..."don't sit here, don't sit here, don't
sit here, please!"
Ok. What size of a shirt do you wear? -
T-shirt or regular shirt?
Bench shirt. - Special size.
Ok, keep your secrets. What size regular
shirt, 3x? - You mean like a t-shirt, 4x.
Jeez. Can you dance? - Slow (starts
And I was going
to ask you at the beginning
of this, what's your formal education? - Formal education? Some
child development teaching after high school.
So you're a high school graduate? - Yes,
out of Houston.
Do you ever get tired of people stopping
you when you're trying to take a plane or in a hurry, and they stop
you, they want to take a picture, get an autograph and all that
crap. Do you ever get tired of all that shit? - No, I really don't I
think because, you know, you work so hard to get up to that level
and I think it's just because people just want to take the time out.
So if you can take the time out and go and oblige them, I think it's
okay. But there's also a time for everything else. Like if you're
eating dinner with your friends and stuff like that. Not the time to
When do you think you will be done with
powerlifting? - When God says I'm done.
Did you choose powerlifting or did
powerlifting choose you? - I chose powerlifting because, like, I
don't know if I told you the story, you know this Tim, Bill Kazmaier
was a callus and you know, I set the goal to be the worlds strongest
man and Bill was there on the magazine, Powerlifting USA, sitting on
the porch, you remember that? holding a PL USA and I said "one day
I'll be the worlds strongest man and break his world record".
What do you think of chicks, girls, in
powerlifting? - I think that, uh, you're going to get me
in trouble. I think, let me just tell you this. I think it's good to
see a strong and beautiful woman, let me just leave it at that one.
Since you said
that, right now, who's the hottest looking babe in powerlifting?
- You know, let me tell you Tim, I haven't really looked and I'm not
looking so I think they are all beautiful women and strong.
Oh my God. That
was a good one. So, anything else you want to finish up this
interview with? - Let's just say this, that I hope that
the people that seen or read this interview will take it that I am
for powerlifting and powerlifting is part of my life but also, too,
I just want to let them know that, hey, it's also competition. You
know, when we compete, we step into a realm, where, you know, this
is what we want to do, we want to make our dreams come true whether
it's being a good lifter, or getting a PL world record or getting a
PL record. You know, benching 315 or even benching 800 lbs. It's
still in the form or fashion of what we want to do and it's part of
our goal and part of our heartfelt. So what I can say to everyone
else out there is that I'll see you at the finish line, wherever it
you for this interview. - Thank You.
Some of Anthony
- First teen to Bench Press 600
- A 1025 pound squat 1988
- First man to reverse grip bench
press 700 pounds 1992
- First man to bench press over 700
- 800 pound bench press record at
the Arnold Classic 1997
- 1031 pound squat
- 771 Deadlift
- World record powerlifting total of
- He has successfully benched 700
pounds or greater 17 times in competition
- Talks to youth and spreads the
meaning of the gospel sometimes up to 270 days a year